@krzym "als jede #Brennstoffzelle" ist fraglich, besonders wenn wir Energiedichte & Kapazität in kWh nehmen.

#Methanol speichert deutlich mehr Energie pro Gewicht & Volumen als Akkus, und nen Tank ist signifikant weniger Leergewicht als nen Akku...

-Ein #LiFePO4- Akku mit 500Ah bei 12V & 25kg Gewicht sind 240Wh/kg. Bei Methanol sind es > 2.000Wh/kg bzw. >1.500Wh/l 1.

Außerdem ist Methanol nicht nur billig sondern auch sicherer im Umgang, umweltfreundlicher im Brandfall und mit existierender Infrastruktur logistisch meisterbar.

• Gerade als Speicher für elektrische Energie wäre die Methanolherstellung sinnvoll.

Eine weitere sinnlose Studie baut endlich gscheide #opensource #akkus ihr #frauenhofer und #varta #penner tretet #bmw #renault #bank #banken #staat und #vw in den A... Die sollen endlich ihre #arroganz entlassen aufhören für 10 Jahre #dividende zu zahlen und zusammen
gscheide #opensource #batterie bauen

Zuverlässig bezahlbar tiefentladefähig #now or #never

#lifepo4 und #natrium #asap eigentlich schon wieder alles zu spät wie immer XD

@CelloMomOnCars A few days ago I listened to this podcast https://www.volts.wtf/p/should-we-put-utilities-in-charge . The idea of storage everywhere is compelling. Con Ed is already doing this a bit. Putting batteries in their substations. With software they can make it work.

People in NYC are crazed. They hear lithium and think fire. Screw UL, #LiFePO4 . Old buildings' electrification can be resolved with safe batteries in apartments.

@farbenstau @forthy42 @papageier Hinzu kommt die Möglichkeit dass hier (selten, aber nicht unmöglich) #LiFePO4-Akkus genutzt werden deren Lebensdauer exponentiell länger ist je flacher diese entladen werden!

Bei 100% Entladung halten die oft nur 2.000 Zylklen, bei 80% schon 5.000, bei 50% über 10.000 und bei 25% teilweise 100.000 ...

@jon @energisch_ @wmd Problem with #LithiumBatteries (actually only #LiCo / #LiIon / #LiPo, not #LiFePO4!) is that they tend to exothermically explode and gas out hydrofluoric acid when they degraded too far and/or get charged too fast...

• So they copy & paste #FAA & #EASA rules:https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113548280398064108

It's also why my landlord won't allow me to install a charging wallbox at my fixed parking spot in the garage, because fire safety codes don't allow that - same with a canister of fuel!

• Thus there's no benefit for anyone here to get a #BEV...

Same with Bicycles / Pedelecs in the cellar, tho since there have been thefts I'd definitely not put anything there that has even remotely some value...

@CelloMomOnCars @falcennial @pixelpusher220 Shure, the overhead of a #FuelCell will not.make.it.practical in a #Smartphone for the foreseeable future, and #SodiumWetcells are slowly entrenching #LiFePO4 cells territory.

I do however expect that for #EnvoirmentalProtection alone, we'll see #Lithium cells being slowly phased out in a few decades like #NiCd, #mercury and #lead before them.

• The only reason #LeadAcid wetcells are still used as #CarBattery is because they are disgustingly cheap and can provide high amperages for starter motors. Their weight inefficiency is not of big concern in cars.

Likewise I'm confident we see first #LiFePO4 then #SodiumWetcells then #FuelCells take over.

• On the flipside, I hope we'll see more #BatterySwap systems that'll use standardized #LiFePO4 cells (maybe not a giant stack of 21700's on cars, but on #eBikes and maybe 14500's #MobileDevices) which could solve the #charging speed problem.

In fact I'm confident #MethanolFuelcell will be used as drop-in replacement for (diesel-)electric buses simply because of scalability and fire safety alone.

• OFC the superior solution for regular bus lines are trolley buses, but being able to refuel on long-distance trips will certainly help conversion with long-haul bus services and #trucking beyond the "last-mile stop & go" delivery where drivers have their 8hr shifts and trucks can "slow-charge" at the depot at night.

In fact, #DeutschePost literally bought up an #electric #MiniTrick #startup just to get the "#CityScooter" #BEV|s made for them, and for couriers that only do stop & go these work fine.

@CelloMomOnCars @falcennial @pixelpusher220 IMHO #MethanolFuelcell tech will become.the longterm Norm as the economies of scale converting gas stations and the.convenience.and storeability.completely outclass #LiFePO4 batteries.

• Not even talking about dnergy density which it's also superior in...

I mean, come on... @frameworkcomputer engineers propably know where they can source some quality #Thinkpadnium or #Nokianite for some #CHONKER #Phone that survives me!

• Even if it end up #THICC AF if that's what it takes to be indestructible...

• Bonus points if it eats 18650 or 21700 #LiFePO4 cells so it won't blow up when shot at!

@pandora_parrot yes and besides that I think #BatteryElectricVehicles will also die out again because #FuelCells using #Methanol at ambient temperature & pressure solve the "#charging" and "#battery" problems elegantly.

• Also the huge amounts of expensive #UnfairTrade minerals like #Lithium and #Cobalt as well as poor #FireSafety of #LiIon / #LiCo / #LiPo cells with #LiFePO4 having noticeable lower vapacity and cell voltage makes it less attractive, cuz even if we assume a mere 30% efficiency (on par with naturally aspirated, fully-mechanical gasoline engines) tue #EnergyDensity and #range with #Methanol easily beats even the most expensive and high-tech battery cells, including some hot sodium-sulphur cells that are at ~ 400°C during operation...

Also espechally in the #USA and other places, people usually choose a #car to reach longer distances that have no #PublicTransport, thus #EV's may force them to a healther driving habit and regular stops, but that's seen as really inconvenient because it extends the trip time...

@ai6yr @mattblaze AFAIC it wasn't explosives, but malicious code that caused the SoC/microcntroller to overdischarge the #LiIon / #LiPo and basically not do overdischarge protection...

• And yes, unlike #NiCd & #LiFePO4, #Lithium / #LiCo cells are literally exploding if shorted and/or overdischarged!