Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@fennix" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fennix</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FunFact" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FunFact</span></a>: Any decent <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/client" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>client</span></a> already does <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/QuotePosts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QuotePosts</span></a> similar to how <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitter</span></a> did it and provide a preview of the 1st link appearing in the post.</p><ul><li>CWs will work the same as with sensitive media & CW'd posts.</li></ul><p>So i.e. <em>CW "USpol"</em> will work fine...</p>
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I get that #quoteposts are often used to dunk on people. To take someone's post and place yours above it to say they are an idiot. That sucks.
But I don't care so much about quoting "posts". I want to share articles, podcast episodes and videos with a comment re why it's awesome. And while we can do that, someday all of those things should also be natively fedi content. And when I do this kind of QP, it should count as a boost. That's what I want. #SocialWeb
Does that make sense? #QuoteBoosts?
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[I'm already hating myself for even bothering to beat this damned dead horse again]
"Making quote posts opt-in basically means that it will be hardly ever used, so why even bother investing all the time to develop it in the first place?"
#QuotePosts on #Mastodon have been made opt-in (the user decides whether their posts may be quote posted or not) thus preventing (as the most prevalent example) the dog-piling by armies of angry misogynist incel males who used to broadcaast a woman's post to a cc list of their angry misogynist incel male 'brothers' so the bros could execute a wholesale assault
I witnessed this scores of times on Twitter
You missed it? Or didn't care?
None of this may concern you, but at least #Gargron and the Mastodon devs had the sense to make their concerns known (what? two years ago?) and not just rush in to unleashing this weapon on demand
The 'demand' coming from 99% males, not surprisingly
You can still quote post; just opt-out from any controls, or don't use them
Because there's no #quoteposts feature on #Mastodon, I will sometimes reply to others' toots with quotes from a link they posted about, or make a statement that links to their original post. I'm not directly replying to them specifically, but want to amplify their post/toot with additional msging beyond just boosting.
Personally, I appreciate that #QuotePosts are coming to #Mastodon. The approach chosen sounds absolutely reasonable to me! 
https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/02/bringing-quote-posts-to-mastodon/
Mastodon BlogBringing Quote Posts to Mastodon
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Mastodon
Mastodon will add Quote Posts, even though some Users don’t want Them. 
Mastodon is making a change that might have some users divided. In an update, the decentralized platform announced that it’s working to add quote posts “to help people to transition away from proprietary, billionaire-owned social media to the open social web”.
https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/02/bringing-quote-posts-to-mastodon/
![[ImageSource: MastodonEngineering]
But there are some technical hurdles that Mastodon will have to overcome to enable quote posts. For one, quote posts aren’t standardized, meaning there isn’t a set way to build the feature into ActivityPub, the decentralized social networking protocol used by Mastodon. The platform adds that quote posts will impact a large portion of Mastodon’s codebase, so it will “take more time to develop.”
There isn’t a timeframe for when we can expect quote posts to arrive on Mastodon, but it aims to create a specification that will allow other Fediverse applications to implement quote posts as well. Mastodon first considered introducing quote posts in 2023 and received a grant to work on the project.
<https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/05/a-new-onboarding-experience-on-mastodon/#:~:text=And%20our%20work,these%20updates%20soon.>
“We know that Quote Posts are a source of concern for some members of the community, and highly-requested by others,” Mastodon says. “We’re committed to sharing our progress, and listening to your feedback.”](https://nerdculture.de/system/media_attachments/files/114/042/019/748/078/584/original/7ff45630c1ef1dc2.png "[ImageSource: MastodonEngineering]
But there are some technical hurdles that Mastodon will have to overcome to enable quote posts. For one, quote posts aren’t standardized, meaning there isn’t a set way to build the feature into ActivityPub, the decentralized social networking protocol used by Mastodon. The platform adds that quote posts will impact a large portion of Mastodon’s codebase, so it will “take more time to develop.”
There isn’t a timeframe for when we can expect quote posts to arrive on Mastodon, but it aims to create a specification that will allow other Fediverse applications to implement quote posts as well. Mastodon first considered introducing quote posts in 2023 and received a grant to work on the project.
<https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/05/a-new-onboarding-experience-on-mastodon/#:~:text=And%20our%20work,these%20updates%20soon.>
“We know that Quote Posts are a source of concern for some members of the community, and highly-requested by others,” Mastodon says. “We’re committed to sharing our progress, and listening to your feedback.”")
Oh wow - is this for real? #Mastodon #quoteposts https://ppc.land/mastodon-to-introduce-quote-posts-with-focus-on-user-control/
PPC Land · Mastodon to introduce quote posts with focus on user controlSocial network to add long-requested feature with safety controls, allowing users to manage how their content is shared
I very much welcome quote posts. Despite the fears that some have about it, I believe it’s needed.
What’s important is that the @Mastodon team was mindful about their decision, spending ages simply considering it.
There’s an opt-out, which means those who want it can use it. And those who don’t, can keep it from happening to their posts.
https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/02/bringing-quote-posts-to-mastodon/
Mastodon BlogBringing Quote Posts to Mastodon
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Also @IceCubesApp kann #quoteposts jetzt bereits. 
#mastodon #quotepost (Die offizielle Variante wird aber noch besser!)
From: @stadtbremerhaven
https://feedmirror.social/@stadtbremerhaven/114009369064109329
Mastodon FeedmirrorCaschys Blog (inoffiziell) (@stadtbremerhaven@feedmirror.social)Mastodon führt Zitat-Funktion ein: Ein ausgewogener Ansatz für mehr Interaktion
Die Social-Media-Plattform Mastodon steht vor einer Neuerung: Nach jahrelangen Überlegungen wird die Möglichkeit eingeführt, Beiträge anderer Nutzer mit eigenem Kommentar zu teilen – eine Funktion, die als „Quote Posts“ bekannt ist. Diese Entscheidung basiert auf umfangreichen Gesprächen mit Community-Vertretern verschiedener...
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https://stadt-bremerhaven.de/mastodon-fuehrt-zitat-funktion-ein-ein-ausgewogener-ansatz-fuer-mehr-interaktion/
"For starters, #Mastodon says it will allow users to control whether their posts can be quoted at all. This would protect people from being the recipient of unwanted attention or hateful replies to some extent. (Though, arguably, people could still screenshot someone’s post to circulate it more broadly…)
In addition, users will be notified if someone quotes them, and they’ll be able to withdraw their post from the quoted context at any time."
#quoteposts
https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/14/mastodon-is-working-to-add-the-controversial-quote-posts-feature/
TechCrunch · Mastodon is working to add the controversial 'quote posts' feature | TechCrunch
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Randomly crossed my mind while reading https://github.com/mastodon/specs-background/blob/main/quote-posts/quote-posts-research-and-goals.md
If someone quote-posted a post that is keyword-filtered to be "hidden", it won't show up right?
Or should it show "This is filtered/hidden", which is not really "hidden" anymore? 
GitHubspecs-background/quote-posts/quote-posts-research-and-goals.md at main · mastodon/specs-backgroundA place to store background documentation and research that informs specifications and FEPs - mastodon/specs-background
Quote Posts are coming to Mastodon.
Unsure if I will opt out.
Unsure how I feel overall tbh.
https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/02/bringing-quote-posts-to-mastodon/
Mastodon BlogBringing Quote Posts to Mastodon
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@Matthias Die Quote-Posts an sich vielleicht nicht. Möglicherweise übernehmen sie dieselbe Technologie wie Misskey, weil Threads die auch hat.
Aber das Opt-In wird nur innerhalb von Mastodon funktionieren.
#CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares
Aber das Opt-In wird nur innerhalb von Mastodon funktionieren.
#CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares
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@Lioh Und genau das wurde auf Twitter eingesetzt als Waffe gegen Angehörige von Minderheiten (BIPoC, 2SLGBTQQIA+ etc.). Im Grunde kennt man das als Twitter-User nur dafür.
Noch ein Grund, warum so viele von da nach Mastodon geflohen sind: weil Mastodon keine Quote-Posts/Drükos/Drukos hat.
Was aber kaum jemand auf Mastodon weiß: Das Fediverse hat sehr wohl Quote-Posts. Praktisch alles, was Mikro- oder Makroblogging macht und nicht "Mastodon" heißt, kann quote-posten. Und kann auch Mastodon-Tröts quote-posten.
Aussage, die ich gerade bekommen habe: Hubzilla und (streams) hätten nie die Möglichkeit haben dürfen, Mastodon-Tröts zu quote-posten, weil Mastodon sich gegen Quote-Posts entschieden hat.
Nur: Zum einen war 2016 das Nichtimplementieren von Quote-Posts keine Entscheidung zum Schutz von Twitter-Flüchtlingen, sondern zum Vereinfachen von Mastodon. Zum anderen müßten wahrscheinlich mehr als 60 Fediverse-Serveranwendungen für Mastodon eine Ausnahme einbauen.
Was für Twitter-Flüchtlinge auf Mastodon auch völlig unvorstellbar ist: Quote-Posts sind in fast 15 Jahren Friendica nie mißbräuchlich genutzt worden. Und überall sonst, was Quote-Posts kann, auch nicht.
Übrigens ist auch das wieder so ein Fall, wo Mastodon-Nutzer versuchen, dem gesamten Fediverse die Mastodon-Kultur aufzuzwingen und Features, die Mastodon nicht hat, wegzunehmen.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares
Noch ein Grund, warum so viele von da nach Mastodon geflohen sind: weil Mastodon keine Quote-Posts/Drükos/Drukos hat.
Was aber kaum jemand auf Mastodon weiß: Das Fediverse hat sehr wohl Quote-Posts. Praktisch alles, was Mikro- oder Makroblogging macht und nicht "Mastodon" heißt, kann quote-posten. Und kann auch Mastodon-Tröts quote-posten.
Aussage, die ich gerade bekommen habe: Hubzilla und (streams) hätten nie die Möglichkeit haben dürfen, Mastodon-Tröts zu quote-posten, weil Mastodon sich gegen Quote-Posts entschieden hat.
Nur: Zum einen war 2016 das Nichtimplementieren von Quote-Posts keine Entscheidung zum Schutz von Twitter-Flüchtlingen, sondern zum Vereinfachen von Mastodon. Zum anderen müßten wahrscheinlich mehr als 60 Fediverse-Serveranwendungen für Mastodon eine Ausnahme einbauen.
Was für Twitter-Flüchtlinge auf Mastodon auch völlig unvorstellbar ist: Quote-Posts sind in fast 15 Jahren Friendica nie mißbräuchlich genutzt worden. Und überall sonst, was Quote-Posts kann, auch nicht.
Übrigens ist auch das wieder so ein Fall, wo Mastodon-Nutzer versuchen, dem gesamten Fediverse die Mastodon-Kultur aufzuzwingen und Features, die Mastodon nicht hat, wegzunehmen.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares
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@PaulaToThePeople
I mean, I could propose to Mike, Mario and Harald to automatically remove the Share button under any and all posts and comments from Mastodon, just to see their reactions.
But as a matter of fact, Pleroma and Akkoma can quote-post Mastodon toots just the same. The same goes for Misskey and its over 50 forks, including but not limited to JavaScript-based Iceshrimp which won't get any new features, Iceshrimp.NET which isn't officially released yet, Sharkey, CherryPick and Catodon. And Friendica can quote-post Mastodon toots, too.
Several dozen Fediverse server projects can quote-post Mastodon toots. They all would have to change. Or they all would have had to change the moment that it was decided that Mastodon lacks quote-posts to protect its users rather than to stay simple.
That has been Mastodon's track record since its very inception. I won't believe that anything has changed about this until Mastodon actually implements technology introduced by another Fediverse server project.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
Mastodon decided against quote posts so far, so Hubzilla and (streams) should not allow quoting Mastodon posts.
I mean, I could propose to Mike, Mario and Harald to automatically remove the Share button under any and all posts and comments from Mastodon, just to see their reactions.
But as a matter of fact, Pleroma and Akkoma can quote-post Mastodon toots just the same. The same goes for Misskey and its over 50 forks, including but not limited to JavaScript-based Iceshrimp which won't get any new features, Iceshrimp.NET which isn't officially released yet, Sharkey, CherryPick and Catodon. And Friendica can quote-post Mastodon toots, too.
Several dozen Fediverse server projects can quote-post Mastodon toots. They all would have to change. Or they all would have had to change the moment that it was decided that Mastodon lacks quote-posts to protect its users rather than to stay simple.
And where are you reading that Mastodon will reinvent the wheel? To me it reads like they are working on Fediverse-wide interoperability for these features.
That has been Mastodon's track record since its very inception. I won't believe that anything has changed about this until Mastodon actually implements technology introduced by another Fediverse server project.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
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@PaulaToThePeople It isn't just a matter of consent. Besides, for example, I do have quote-post control here on Hubzilla.
I can give permission to quote-post my posts to
Over on (streams), I can still give that permission to
It's much more a matter of technology.
Mastodon is about to completely re-invent the wheel with a non-standard, Mastodon-only setting. This setting will only work within Mastodon simply because it probably won't even be documented anywhere, especially not before it's officially rolled out.
There simply is no way that every last instance of Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, CherryPick, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko, dozens of other Misskey forks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. etc. will have that setting implemented before Mastodon rolls it out so that even the users on mastodon.social are perfectly safe from the first second on.
Besides, @Mike Macgirvin
, creator of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte and still the only maintainer of the latter two, will never introduce proprietary Mastodon features to them. He'd rather risk (streams) and Forte becoming incompatible with Mastodon. The same goes for @Mario Vavti and @Harald Eilertsen, Hubzilla's main maintainers.
If Mastodon wants to become a perfectly safe haven against unallowed quote-posting, it has only got one choice: It must introduce something like (streams)' and Forte's user agent filter and use it to block just everything that isn't Mastodon. Like, include a hard-coded allowlist that only includes Mastodon plus what little can't quote or quote-post anyway.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Calckey #Firefish #Iceshrimp #CherryPick #Sharkey #Catodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
I can give permission to quote-post my posts to
- everyone in the Fediverse
- everyone on Hubzilla and (streams)
- everyone on this hub
- approved and unapproved connections
- only approved connections
- only those of my connections whom I explicitly give permission by contact role
- nobody but myself
Over on (streams), I can still give that permission to
- everyone in the Fediverse
- all my connections
- only myself + specific connections whom I grant that permission either by permission role or by individual connection settings
It's much more a matter of technology.
Mastodon is about to completely re-invent the wheel with a non-standard, Mastodon-only setting. This setting will only work within Mastodon simply because it probably won't even be documented anywhere, especially not before it's officially rolled out.
There simply is no way that every last instance of Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, CherryPick, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko, dozens of other Misskey forks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. etc. will have that setting implemented before Mastodon rolls it out so that even the users on mastodon.social are perfectly safe from the first second on.
Besides, @Mike Macgirvin
, creator of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte and still the only maintainer of the latter two, will never introduce proprietary Mastodon features to them. He'd rather risk (streams) and Forte becoming incompatible with Mastodon. The same goes for @Mario Vavti and @Harald Eilertsen, Hubzilla's main maintainers.If Mastodon wants to become a perfectly safe haven against unallowed quote-posting, it has only got one choice: It must introduce something like (streams)' and Forte's user agent filter and use it to block just everything that isn't Mastodon. Like, include a hard-coded allowlist that only includes Mastodon plus what little can't quote or quote-post anyway.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Calckey #Firefish #Iceshrimp #CherryPick #Sharkey #Catodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
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