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Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.social/@iFixit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">iFixit</a> <blockquote>and it doesn't look like you can attach documents to posts</blockquote> You can't on Mastodon. I could, both here on <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> and on <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/(streams)" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> where I post my images. But I wouldn't have to. Vanilla Mastodon has a character limit of 500. Hubzilla has a character "limit" that's so staggeringly high that nobody knows how high it is because it doesn't matter. (streams), from the same creator and the same software family as Hubzilla, has a character "limit" of over 24,000,000 which is not an arbitrary design decision but simply the size of the database field. By the way: Both are in the Fediverse, and both are federated with Mastodon, so Mastodon's "all media must have accurate and sufficiently detailed descriptions" rule applies there as well unless you don't care if thousands upon thousands of Mastodon users block you for not supplying image and media descriptions. In theory, I could publish a video of ten minutes, and in the same post, I could add a full, timestamped description that takes several hours to read. Verbatim transcript of all spoken words. Detailed description of the visuals where "detailed" means "as detailed as Mastodon loves its alt-texts" as in "800 characters of alt-text or more for a close-up of a single flower in front of a blurry background" detailed. Detailed description of all camera movements and cuts. Description of non-spoken-word noises. All timestamped, probably with over a hundred timestamps for the whole description of ten minutes of video. Now I'm wondering if that could be helpful or actually required, or if it's overkill and actually a hindrance. CC: @<a href="https://connectified.com/@masukomi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">masukomi</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.scot/@gunchleoc" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GunChleoc</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWAltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWAltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescriptions</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://connectified.com/@masukomi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">masukomi</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.social/@iFixit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">iFixit</a> And this is only mostly a transcript of the spoken words. What if someone actually took upon themselves the effort to describe a video with a timestamped/timecoded combination of visual description, spoken word transcript and non-spoken word audio description? Especially if the visual description is on the same high level of detail that's expected in the Fediverse? CC: @<a href="https://mastodon.scot/@gunchleoc" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GunChleoc</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescriptions</a>

rain trutherI have a question regarding <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/accessibility" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#accessibility</a> and <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/AltText" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AltText</a> / <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/ImageDescription" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ImageDescription</a> / <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/MediaDescription" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MediaDescription</a>.I need to come up with an image description for the attached image for my job. I'm at a complete loss. This is alt text nightmare mode.Are there established methods for describing complex figures such as this one? I would be very happy about some input from people who actually need image descriptions.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://chaos.social/@obrhoff" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@obrhoff</a> <a href="https://ieji.de/@BlippyTheWonderSlug" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@BlippyTheWonderSlug</a> there's no <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AltText" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AltText</a> and since I do usually use the :fediverse: on the go in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EDGEland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EDGEland</a>, I don't load media per default, so an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ImageDescription" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ImageDescription</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MediaDescription" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MediaDescription</a> would be nice.Plus I do have blind and deaf followers so <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/accessibility" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#accessibility</a> is quite important.

PaulaToThePeopleI see so many people abusing the media description feature, so here is an irregular reminder of what you should do with the feature:Describe the media!I know, right? Its almost as though you could have guessed that yourself. Just describe the media in a way that people who can't see and/or hear it still get the gist. Don't just write a teaser of the description and then leave out the most important part. That's just cruel! If you can't write a media description ask for help by using the AltForMe hashtag and leave the field *empty* until you get a description that you can copy-paste in.Abusing the media description feature tricks people into boosting your post, because they think everybody will be able to enjoy it.<a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/MediaDescription" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MediaDescription</a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/MediaCaption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MediaCaption</a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/caption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#caption</a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/CaptionYourMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CaptionYourMedia</a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/AltText" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AltText</a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/accessibility" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#accessibility</a>

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